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hosted by: Ryan Andersen & Will Ayerst
Model Rail Cast #18
Sun, Jun 22, 2008

MRC Show # 18 Notes - Building your MRR World

  • Crew Lounge: Sweet 16 DVD updates, Will's ATSF progress and all our great feedback on the MRC Unplugged show.
  • Roundhouse: Part 1 of Designing a Model railroad you can enjoy and be proud of.
  • Coaling Tower: Joe Fugate Op Session DVD1-3, Joe Fugate 'Modelling a Prototype Railroad' DVD.
  • Archives: A quick look at Britain's railways
  • TYRTH: 1932
  • Branch Line: An interview with Leo Bicknell of Reality Reduced.
  • Interchange: Various RH related Links.

Download the enhanced (better sounding) version of the show with chapters:  MRC Show 18 (AAC)

Crew Lounge
Will update: Recieved FT's, but have lost powerpack. Waiting on other stock.
Ryan Update: Close to finishing the sweet 16 DVD
Railway Post Office
Feedback and updates.

Roundhouse
The first part of a 4-part (or so) series on model your model railroad.  From a basic layout to a crafted master piece you can enjoy and be proud of.

This week, the basics of designing your RR world (not just your trackplan). Heck, sometimes its good for even seasoned Model Railroaders to cleanse their palette/mind. We're starting off from Episode 15's armchair modelling segment and building on it with some of our choices and the way we came to them to set our railroad in a place and time - as the first step towards designing your railroad.

We chose Ohio, and a freelanced railroad called  (as I'm sure our more astute listeners may have already guessed) the MRCR. Listen as we justify the place, time and setting of our railroad and explore some of the options.  Stay tuned for Part 2 next week!

Coaling Tower
Our final thoughts Joe Fugate's Operating Session series of DVDs, and a short review on Volume 1 of the "Modelling a Prototype" disk. Ryan almost blows the cover on an excellent giveaway prize, too!

Archives
The history of British railways from 1830 to 1994. British Railways while arguably far smaller in scale than their American brethren played a significant part in the development of England, Scotland and Wales - and we touch on some of the more notable events in the history of the rail network of our green isle.

This Random Year in Train History - This week: 1849
Jay Smith:
The first segment of the Pennsylvania Railroad, from Lewiston, Pennsylvania to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, opens for service.

Duncan: This Random Year in Railroad History, 1849, was of great significance to railroads in the Western United States in an indirect, but highly significant way. It is the year that the California Gold Rush really got going. Before the “49’ers” arrived, California had a population of about 15,000. In 1849, it is estimated that 90,000 miners and merchants arrived to seek their fortunes in the California gold fields. Several of these merchants went on in 1861 to found the Central Pacific company which on to build the western half of the transcontinental railroad. To give you an idea of how difficult the journey was in those days before the railroad was built, the ship that Mark Hopkins, one of the founders of the Central Pacific, arrived on, the Pacific, left New York on Jan 22, 1849 and didn’t arrive in San Francisco until Aug. 5. Hopkins and the three other merchants of the “Big Four”, Stanford, Hungtinton and Crocker, all made fortunes selling supplies to the 49’ers at a great profit. These profits allowed them to put up the bonds necessary to secure the rights from the US government for the western half of the transcontinental railroad. One wonders if the Gold Rush hadn’t happened if the first transcontinental railroad would have terminated in California. For one California might not have become a state and might still have belonged to Mexico in 1861. It seems likely that somewhere in Oregon or Washington would have been the terminus.

Douglas: The governments of India and England form the first agreements to provide land grants to English companies for railroad construction in India. Robert Stephenson's High Level Bridge for the York, Newcastle and Berwick Railway at Newcastle upon Tyne, England is opened permanently for rail traffic. The Scioto and Hocking Valley Railroad (which eventually became the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad) is chartered in Ohio to build a railroad from Portsmouth through Piketon and Chillicothe to Lancaster.

Zonie: The Jenny Lind with a 100psi boiler was introduced.

Ryan: LMRR starts it climb to power.

Will: The Liggett's Gap Railroad is incorporated in Scranton. It later becomes the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad.
Waterloo Station opens, replaced Nine Elms as terminus for London & South Western Railway - 1848/49
The Michigan Central builds new shops in Detroit (between 1848 and 1851).  The Michigan Central Railroad was originally incorporated in 1837 to establish rail service between Detroit, Michigan and St. Joseph, Michigan. Michigan Central became part of New York Central in 1867 and became part of Penn Central and Conrail. Ex Michigan Central trackage is in use by Norfolk Southern.

Next week: 1932 was the chosen year.  See what you can find or interest to you or others.

Branch Line
An interview with the indomitable Leo Bicknell of Reality Reduced Video Podcast fame where we talk about the Derby City Express convention, the problems with N scale manufacturers/distributor policy and some interesting information about the particulars of running Steamers in 1:160.

Interchange
Some information of Ohio via the B&O railroad history: http://www.american-rails.com/baltimore-and-ohio.html
First found in northern Ohio, gypsum is the foundation of a new plaster industry: http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/tabid/7709/default.aspx
Rubber was another huge industry for Ohio, in fact, at one time Ohio was the leading Rubber manufacturing state: http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=1533
Ohio is home to Frigidaire: http://www.libraries.wright.edu/special/manuscripts/ms262.html
Amish country and agriculture: http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-78871/Ohio
Interesting paper on population percentages and growth in Ohio from 1950s to 1990s, covers urban and rural statistics: http://exurban.osu.edu/papers/ru1.pdf
 

Download the enhanced (better sounding) version of the show with chapters:  MRC Show 18 (AAC)
 

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Posted by: dbrent MRCS Pioneer on Mon, Jun 23 2008    
Another great show... Being an N-Scaler, I'm also a regular watcher of Reality Reduced, so enjoyed the interview w/Leo.

BTW, on the N-Scale AC-12 cab-forwards, those were actually only operated by Southern Pacific and the model is going to be released by Intermountain in Nov/Dec 2008.

My contribution to this random year in railroad history - 1932 : The Southern Pacific Railroad gained control of the Cotton Belt system on April 14, 1932 but continued to operate it as a separate company until 1992, when the SP consolidated the Cotton Belt's operations into the parent company (from Wikipedia).

Anyway, looking forward to parts 2-4 of your layout series. Keep up the great work!

Don

Posted by: Ironsiderodger MRCS Pioneer on Mon, Jun 23 2008    
Wow guys- what a fantastic ride. Ryan those bumpers are so well planted and chosen, you're really polishing the production aspect of the show- it sounds very nice from an engineering perspective (an audio engineer). Will, remind Vicky that she has a great radio voice and it really adds to the show's quality.

Will that was a great breakdown of UK rail history, I had an outside curiosity and that piece really fleshed out the basics quite well. Incidently, my hobby store has two ATSF steamers, one 4-8-4 with a mile long eight axle tender, one 2-8-0 job that looks early 1900's; these are both bachmans of several years vintage.

Guys, speaking for myself, I really REALLY love when the show exceeds an hour, I know it must be a bear to edit, but its just that much longer that I get to hang with all my train buddies.

PS I hope to get the diesel done and off to ye next week.

Posted by: dmcree MRCS Pioneer on Tue, Jun 24 2008     www.tamvalleyrr.com
Hi Will and Ryan, Thanks for another great show. I didn't comment on #17 since I hate to leave negative comments :-)

For TRYTH 1932 I found an interesting table showing the number of new steam locomotives built for American railroads each year in the book "Encyclopedia of Western Railroad History" by D.B. Robertson. 1932 was the height of the depression for American railroads as evidenced by this table: 1929, 955 locomotives were built and in 1931, 53, in 1932 just 3, 1933 10, and 1934 65. Those 3 that were built were manufactured in railroad shops so they were probably cobbled together from old parts. Another table shows that 1932 and 1933 were the lowest in coal consumption for Western railroads until diesel starts to take over. So 1932 appears to be the height of the Great Depression for railroads and the end of the Golden Age.

By the way I have all of Joe's DVDs and refer to them often when building scenery. I don't follow them exactly but I learned a lot of good stuff from them especially how to easily hand-carve rocks.

I liked your bit about designing railroads. However, I submit that model railroads exist purely for the owner's pleasure and they never make money - I bet even Joe is going to make all the money invested in the Siskiyou Lines back with his DVDs (especially at their bargain pricing)! I further submit - does Amtrak make money? For me a model railroad is a place to recreate past scenes through which you can run trains that no longer exist - especially Cab Forwards!

Cheers, Duncan

Posted by: jfugate MRCS Sponsor on Wed, Jun 25 2008     http://siskiyou-railfan.net
Wow, you guys make me blush with the very complementary reviews of my videos!

Interesting show, and I have to agree the structured format outshines the unplugged format of show 17.

By the way, our Ops Live series sales have increased since you guys have been promoting the series -- so you have more reach than you may think!

Posted by: RobHinkle MRCS Pioneer on Thu, Jun 26 2008     rdglebanonvalley.wordpress.com
Another great show, I'm very interested to see where you guys go in your layout design series.

Posted by: Douglas on Thu, Jun 26 2008    
I finally listened to both shows 17 and 18 today. I've been doing a lot of overtime at work recently which means there has been no time to work on my train layout. : (
Anyways, I enjoyed show 17 - unplugged. Well, let me rephase that, I enjoyed show 17 - unplugged on a limited basis. I like the structured format of the regular show. It make the podcast so much more entertaining.
Show 18 was great. Joe's DVDs sound awesome. I better get some of those dvds. The layout design series sounds like it is going to be very informative.

I do have a question. And since I'm a newbie I hope I'm not saying something totally taboo. But couldn't a Steam Engine run on any era/year layout. Many cities and towns have a scenic railroad tour that departs from modern cities. And these tours are almost always ran with a Steam Engine. Many times right next to a Diesel engine that uses the same track. We have one here that departs from Baltimore from the B&0 railroad museum. The Steam Engine would only be pulling passenger cars not cargo cars of course. But a person could always freelance a theme-park like Disney World and have a Steam Engine go around that.
Sorry...maybe I'm just talking out of my caboose!


Quick Railroad Facts From 1932
The first radio broadcast from a moving train occurs when New York City station WABC broadcasts from a Baltimore and Ohio Railroad train operating in Maryland.

The first completely air-conditioned sleeping car trains began operating on the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad.

The last steam-powered Southern Belle passenger train operates on the Southern Railway on December 31st. The train's equipment was replaced with electric multiple unit cars the next day.


Keep up the great work.
Model Rail Cast - Still Rocking The Model Train Scene

Douglas

Posted by: Jay Smith MRCS Pioneer on Sat, Jun 28 2008     neclayout.webs.com
Great show, its nice hearing the reasoning behind why other people choose the location to model.

I feel the same way about Joe's DVDs. I have the whole series now, and love watching them. They're very informative and well put together.

Love the interview, think that is one of my favorite parts!

Posted by: wildchild on Fri, Jul 4 2008    
Great Show, loved the BR history, whilst I love US prototype, this was where we all started, and it was very interesting. Thanks, Will. Ryan, why if MR runs an 8X4 article is it bad but we have a 4 part series in this in the podcast? The unplugged episode has indeed shown just how much work goes into the structured pd's! Keep up the great work! THIS IS GOING SOMEWHERE GOOD.

Posted by: wildchild on Fri, Jul 4 2008    
Great Show, loved the BR history, whilst I love US prototype, this was where we all started, and it was very interesting. Thanks, Will. Ryan, why if MR runs an 8X4 article is it bad but we have a 4 part series in this in the podcast? The unplugged episode has indeed shown just how much work goes into the structured pd's! Keep up the great work! THIS IS GOING SOMEWHERE GOOD.

 
 
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